OK guys. This comes from a chat me and Yoseqlo were having on my recent post:
“Let’s Discuss: Doing Magick” – http://wp.me/p31b5Q-dq
Read the comments between me and Yoseqlo for more. Here are the snippets that matter:
“I think that perhaps we’re all approaching this debate from the wrong angle. It may be best to start writing how we were feeling and what we were thinking when we did our most successful acts of magick in the past. We might draw more similarities there. Right now I think we’re using our own terminologies and words of preference. So let’s break those terminologies and words of preference down by describing them in other words. Basically, wherever two people disagree on a terminology or word of preference, let’s “thesaurus it out” by using said word/terminology’s synonym in it’s place, or “dictionary it out” by putting the definition you want instead of a single word/terminology for it. I know it’ll make everything a lot more verbose, but we might figure things out better this way. =)”
Reply from Yoseqlo:
““It may be best to start writing how we were feeling and what we were thinking when we did our most successful acts of magick in the past.”
Well, since this it’s in its way to a community I think that would be very beneficial to all of us to try to identify similarities, and certainly that’s the kind of thing that could allow an unified terminology to describe Altered states of mind… with of course, a very little sample, nevertheless a start is a start.”
John’s (my) reply to Yoseqlo’s (his) reply: (There’s an Inception joke in there somewhere, I swear. But my pet ouroboros ate it.)
“Yep. And that’s the key here. We need to undo the “Tower of Babel” problem regarding terminology in magick. And for that, we need a sort of “Mage’s Rosetta Stone”. That’s where I’d like to start. Let’s find the similarities in meaning, not so much the differences. If you’re making fire using various methods, the only way to understand chemistry from this is to look at the similarities, not the differences. What’s required for fire to burn in all those situations? Do you need to pray to Hephaestus to make fire every time? Do you need flint and iron, or wood chips and friction? Do you need a magnifying glass and newspaper every time? What’s the underlying similarities between all these situations that end up causing pretty much the same result?
That’s why my next post is going to be so important. It’ll start gathering data. And with data, data trends begin to emerge. And with data trends we start to find evidence, which can suggest a cause or method. And once we understand the *actual* requirements for magick, we can start a much more rigorous study in the field, based on what works rather than pure baseless speculation and endless amounts of downright silly metaphors that end up confusing people like a re-run of the “Tower of Babel” from biblical tales. It’s time to clean the blackboard and start fresh. I say we re-write the books by figuring this stuff out, without the silly spirits, subtle energy, and “information” stuff. Purely a psychological analysis of magick, the minimum mental requirements for its practice, and on top of that other mages can add their baseless speculations about spirits from the “void of the wacky wazoo” or whatever the fluffy trend of the month is (just like its been happening throughout history). So let the collection of first-hand accounts begin! =)”
So that’s what I want from you guys: George, Yoseqlo, G.S., walllum, and anyone else is also welcome.
Tell me what you guys did in your most successful acts of magick. To begin, I’ll design a template and an example (actual real example) which you can use in making your own entries. Please, be thorough and don’t overlook *any* detail. Even the smallest thing is important. Treat this as seriously as an eye-witness testimony of a crime to a police officer. Don’t overlook any detail if possible, because those little things can be the similarities that will help us figure this stuff out.
Once condition, though: do *not* enter any act of magick that was unsuccessful. And do *not* enter any act of magick that was successful after you re-interpreted your intent, or wording, or desires, etc. If the objective in your mind and the result matched, and you did an act of magick to make it happen, than its a valid entry. Let’s begin with the template, and then my example.
Intent/Objective: Describe exactly what you were trying to accomplish.
Beliefs/Logic: Describe the beliefs you held at the time, why you thought they were correct, how firmly you believed in them, how seriously you took said beliefs, and what logic you figured allowed you to do magick within said belief parameters.
Method of the Act of Magick: Describe the steps as coldly as possible. Just the steps of the act of magick from a “mental actions” perspective. Keep emotions and “altered state of consciousness” separate from this, and explain why those particular steps would work within the logic of your belief system, and why you thought they would work.
Pre-Act State: Describe how you were feeling before the act of magick, how much you desired/wanted/needed your objective, your state of mind, and how your mind was like the few days (or hours) before your act of magick started. Describe tension, anxiety, glee, hope, or anything else you can think of that you were feeling immediately before the act of magick.
Mid-Act State: Describe your act of magick. Describe the “mental actions” you were doing, along with any physical actions as well. Describe the “state of consciousness” you were in, and what methods (mental or otherwise) which were involved. Describe anything like “seriousness”, “unemotional”, “passionate”, “driven”, “tenacious” or any other words you’d care to describe yourself, your thought process, and so forth. To describe your mental actions, use any words you like, but describe each word in terminology you’re using in their fullest detail – “dictionary it out” and “thesaurus it out” if need be. To describe the “state of consciousness” you were in, use words like “excited”, “mellow”, “peaceful”, “serene”, “agitated”, or anything else. Describe precisely the series of steps you took, why you took them (what the logic in doing them was), and what your belief systems at the time were (and how firmly you believed in them, and how serious or not you were taking said act of magick during the time of that particular act).
Post-Act State: Describe how you felt shortly after your act of magick, and what your mental condition was. Did you think of your magickal act thereafter or not? Describe if you felt any tension or relief, any joy or sorrow, or anything else that you were feeling after the act of magick.
Results: Describe here the results you had intended, and after that describe the results you got.
– My Example (My Job Sigil From 2013)
Intent/Objective: I was looking for a job, and needed one within a week.
Beliefs/Logic: At the time I believed firmly in Chaos Magick. It seemed logical, and I was fairly good at it. I just discovered sigils a while ago, and I figured “why not give it a shot”. It had worked before, and I figured I’d try it again. It couldn’t hurt, and I couldn’t have less of a job since I was then unemployed. I understood the whole spiel about sigils from Liber Kaos, and I believed it firmly. I did the ritual as described, coldly. I wasn’t confident the sigil would work, but I had to try it – there were no options left, and no where else to turn. But I decided I’d give it my best shot no matter what.
Method of the Act of Magick: I wrote up a sigil for my desires on paper, and later burned said piece of paper. I was in a very intense altered state of consciousness before it happened, very intensly focused, trying to “channel” (or “guide”) through the piece of paper my intense “need” (not want) to have a job. I “felt” (more intense version of visualization) me in a job and having more money, and then I immediately let go of it all to release my desire into “the universe” (I trusted “the universe” and my act of magick to do the rest for me). I then didn’t follow up to micro-manage how my act of magick was doing, but I followed up on every opportunity and lead I was given until I settled on the best opportunity of them all. And it was awesome.
Pre-Act State: Before I was a nervous trainwreck. Shaky, fearful, anxious, nervous. I was in “sheep dip” and I knew it. I tried to settle down with meditation before I began, trying to ease everything out from my mind to do things right. I figured I’d need clarity and focus if I was going to channel the right desire/intent, rather than just random thoughts. I had been sending out resumes, but no job interview requests happened as a result of that.
Mid-Act State: I got a piece of paper and a pen. I started to enter an Altered State of Consciousness, a very excitatory one at that. I played some of the most important music for me, the kind that would get me the most excited, hyped, and eager. I didn’t want something that would overwhelm me, nor something that would detract from my clarity of mind. Simply something that would make me feel “energetic” (read: ready to act, ready to do whatever it took, prepared, confident) and ready to take on the opportunities and challenges which I was preparing for myself. I then “felt” (more intensely visualized) what I wanted (a job), and where I wanted to be (employed), and me in that position (once again, employed), and I “channeled” (read: guided) that “feeling” (read: “felt sense”, or more intense visualization) onto and through that piece of paper as I wrote down a sigil (read: scribbled symbol) to represent that intention. I then reached a climax (read: peak in my altered state of consciousness) where I “spaced out” (or “blanked out”) for a moment, overwhelmed by the music and excitatory state of consciousness, and then let go of that “felt sense”/desire/intent. I then let my act of magick (or: “the universe”) take care of taking care of all the little details. I didn’t want to try and fiddle with micro-managing all the little ways in which it could work; I decided I’d simply keep my eyes open and take whatever opportunity “the universe” threw at me later. My task was do continue doing whatever I could, and create as many openings as possible so that “the universe” could respond to my desire/intent.
Post-Act State: I was calm, if a bit energetic because of the adrenaline rush. Later I calmed down, relaxed, watched some TV and streamed some videos from YouTube, chatted with some friends via Skype, Trillian and Facebook.
Results: Within 24 hours I had two requests for interviews. And within a week I had a job! Later I would have 3 job offers to choose from, one which I accepted (and then later quit). I quit the other one because I had sent out a job application during the week following the sigil, and it was closer to home, was with a nicer boss, and the job was easier and more fun. The results had far exceeded any of my expectations, being an incredibly success! 20 on a d20, for sure. (If you catch that reference, try going out more often. =P )
Anyways, that was my actual example. I’d love to hear more from you guys to gather more data – and feel free to question me about my act of magick, as I’ll probably question you guys for further clarification on your reports as well.
(I do have one more example if you guys like… but it’s not very nice. It’s my first act of magick, and it had a rather nasty result. But I’ll talk about it if you guys are interested. It’s more data, but it’s unpleasant. On a small account of death by curse. Which is why I avoid talking about it.)